January 30--Chat Log--English 71
timd what are we supposed to do? Marcia talk about the poem, theme for English B timd ah ............................ timd left............. ............................ timd joined............. adamwalck so now what are we supposed to do? ............................ RobSherman joined............. Marcia talk about the poem ............................ NickWeaver joined............. ben then talk adamwalck which one are we doing? ............................ ship left............. Marcia theme for English B adamwalck okay christieaurich it's pretty good timd i guess justinsilberman it was very good adamwalck i enjoyed it thoroughly ben it wasn't bad Marcia well what does eveyone think it is about? timd was it the thing he was supposed to write? timd or did he just write a poem adamwalck i think its about....equality...in a weird way ben i agree with adam timd probbably christieaurich he was supposed to write a page for his teacher...i'd like to hear the writer read it.... it sounds like it has a pretty good spoken rhythm justinsilberman I think it is about the troubles he's facing as a black student, timd right evan i thought is was kind of choppy and hard to follow adamwalck like how the writer is black, probably everyone else is white...but they are all americans...or something like that ben maybe...i couldn't really catch on to it though christieaurich really?? ............................ mat left............. timd i dont think its what his teacher wanted though adamwalck how do you know what his teacher wanted? justinsilberman i think he is trying to say that the white kids were treating him bad christieaurich i thought it sounded just like a lot of people speak. ben well his teacher wasn't that specific timd ii dont know Marcia I think he was trying to let the teacher know that he was concerned that his ideas would be thought of as differant or soemthing because he was black ben sounds about right Marcia but he wanted to let him know that they have more in common than they think timd that sounds right justinsilberman true true christieaurich true, but he also said thta we can all learn from each other Marcia he didn't want his writing to be necesarilly associated with being back or white NickWeaver i think the point of this poem was to get the point across that he was not being treated equally but we are all americans so we all should treat each other right justinsilberman yes christieaurich true, the thing about the page not being white, but colored seemed scarcastic RobSherman In the end the writer said shows that there is inequality because he said " and some what more free." Marcia In the last 3 lines, he sounds a bit sarcastic ben yes he does adamwalck i dont agree with that,,,if he didnt want it to be associated with black and white,,,he wouldnt have said that he was black justinsilberman ewspecially with the line at the end "although you're older--and white---and somewhat more free." adamwalck good job rob RobSherman thanks christieaurich well, he couldn't just glaze over the obvious timd he makes that a point but not the point christieaurich he wanted to address his differnce adamwalck good call tim... timd thanks christieaurich and how he shouldn't be seen as black adamwalck hey thats what im here for tim timd alright evan i don't think he didn't want to be viewed as black, he wanted to be viewed as black but equal ben what time period do you think this is from timd the 50s Marcia I agree with evan adamwalck i think he just wanted to give his professor alittle insight into his life... ben hmmm...i wonder if this was asked to him today if he would write the same paper timd good thought RobSherman probably not christieaurich it has to be somewhere around then cause he talks about "records" and jazz timd yeah like bop christieaurich hell yea he would timd you think? christieaurich he lived in harlem ben what does that mean christieaurich there's major prejudice there RobSherman so he would not be the only black person there timd right ben there is major prejudice ion you too i guess NickWeaver yea there would be a big racial mix RobSherman not really a mix timd no ben it wouldn't be as bad now as it was then adamwalck no mostly minorities timd huh? christieaurich yea, but haven't you ever walked around there, dont' be white and alone and chill out there at night... you'll get jumped for being white and assumed to be better offf Marcia well he probably wouldnt be the only back person in his class now timd but his cLASS DIDNT LIVE IN HARLEM adamwalck i got lost in harlem once! christieaurich no, but he did timd soory bout the caps RobSherman so did i , i took the wrong subway adamwalck at 12:30 at night....yikes! christieaurich and that's a big part of his essay christieaurich was tht he was where he was from ............................ mat joined............. christieaurich that's what made him who he was timd yeah ben yeah but times, even in harlem, have changed since then RobSherman we should talk about the other poem now timd can we? Marcia no RobSherman oh timd smart school RobSherman right timd that means he wa smart RobSherman yes he was Marcia well obviously christieaurich smart school yet in the poem he still throws around a lot of slang ben yes obviously timd obviously adamwalck but he was still black which meant he was subject to alot of racisim timd obviously adamwalck and he lived at the Y mat there is always slang in poetry timd obviously adamwalck that alone seems like a huge contrast... Marcia i think he made it a point to state in his poem he didnt want his writing judged differantly becuase he was blak timd wasnt he a beat poet? christieaurich hehe... you're right, poetry does use more slang than other writing adamwalck then why did he say he was black? timd huh christieaurich he could be, cause that would coincide with the jazz culture that he was a part of adamwalck what are you confused about tim? ben what about that dog that was hit by the car......oops, wrong poem timd who me? Marcia it was like a challenge almost, nobody want's to admit to being racist. So he mentions it in his writing to almost make the teacher feel bad or something Marcia I dunno adamwalck yeah...you said huh ben good point timd oh timd i forgot justinsilberman very good point timd yeah adamwalck alright ben i wonder waht his grade was on this paper justinsilberman he is just sick and tired of being the subject of racisim christieaurich he said he was black because his experiances were somewhat dictated by the fact that he was colored, and his experiances were what his teacher wanted him to talk about adamwalck im with justin! justinsilberman the closing of the poem totally tells us that RobSherman his teacher prob felt bad for him so he got a good grade ben well thats good then adamwalck he knew how to use teh system justinsilberman lol timd or he pointed out something his teacher didnt want to admit and he failed evan yup ben that would suck adamwalck hmmm intriging tim christieaurich i think thats more probable ............................ ship joined............. adamwalck i cant spell...im retarded! RobSherman what do you think about the poem ship? ship just stopped in timd there was a ship? RobSherman sooo timd i didnt read very carefully adamwalck i like your style tim christieaurich don't worry, we're laughing WITH ya ben i'm not timd dammit ship the poem is similar to the lyrics of a Michael Jackson song RobSherman which song ben what song timd what song adamwalck what song ship it doesn't matter whether your black or white evan billie jean ship you are still an American timd that song was terrible adamwalck smooth criminal ship no Evan! ben good point ship evan black or white christieaurich i just lost a lot of respect for the poem ship but the message is what Hughes speaks about ship it has a similar theme ben don't diss micheal jackson ship why? timd wasnt that the video with macauly cul;kin? Marcia and the message is still an issue today ship go back to the poem ship yes timd right adamwalck ship do you think hughes wanted his race to be an issue? NickWeaver what about the christmas present he wants.. a pipe? christieaurich no, but it was ship that's a good question, what do your classmates think? justinsilberman yes i do timd i think he likes what everyone else likes ben i don't think...i was told not too, bad things happen when i think christieaurich hehe... what kind of pipe?! mat i think hes a stoner justinsilberman because if he didn't his point would have been totally different christieaurich then he and i should chill.. jk ............................ ship left............. Marcia he just wants to make a point that he likes all the same things white people like timd thats what i said! evan like trees justinsilberman it would have totally erases the point of his dream of equality ben again marcia has a good point adamwalck i totally agree with you marica timd marcia is good christieaurich true, and he brings up that he likes classical as well christieaurich "white music" RobSherman what is white music justinsilberman the bach timd classical...easy listening adamwalck classical doest neccessarily mean white music timd kenny g mat What is classified as white music evan y is that white music timd yes timd and country Marcia that's true, he probably is tierd of being stereotyped by white people, l maen living in harlem and all , people wouldnt think he listnens to classical music RobSherman country is white music i agree with that timd yeah mat Just because the famous composers were white timd yeah christieaurich it's just got the ummm.... what's the word... sterotype of being upperclass whit emusic christieaurich time to move on to the other poem christieaurich ship says so adamwalck im white trash and i listen to it.... ben not until ship tells us too adamwalck not really timd and "intelligent" people listen to it christieaurich ii just said that's the sterotype timd what christieaurich and sterotypes aren't true adamwalck i know...im not really white trash Marcia do you think the teacher for Hughes class, was offended by this poem? timd who ben yeah he is timd yes christieaurich and he proved that when he mentioned that he listens to bach ............................ ship joined............. timd iSi! timd new poem? Marcia ok adamwalck but if i was black and i wanted to be graded on the content, i wouldnt base my whole paper on my race timd its not though...its based on truth ship I think that you should look at the next poem timd right ben sounds good... adamwalck thanks ship ship my pleasure adam adamwalck now this is just weird timd is this a teacher? evan yea it is timd writing? ben did you know that thomas gunn is a homosexual timd i did not know that! RobSherman Im confused about the "be more specific" thrown in there Marcia this poem is a little more confusing adamwalck so did his girl accuse him of cheating? ben i had to do a report on him in 12th gade english timd he is a teacher teachers write that a lot NickWeaver maybe his wife died ben this poem is alot more confusing Marcia who is the he in the poem reffering to? adamwalck im going to go ahead and disagree with you nick timd wife? didnt someone just say he was gay? justinsilberman ithink himself adamwalck good point tim... ben he is gay justinsilberman like as the teacher,not the writer NickWeaver ok well maybe his boyfriend then adamwalck maybe she caught him witha guy timd alright then mat Who cares if hes gay what the hell is he talking abouy timd dont knoow Marcia what aout the second part of the poem, when he talks about reading the book... christieaurich i'm at a loss.... anyone care to explain what they think is happening evan he is grading papers timd he was supposed to be grading papers but he starts reading a book instead ben i'm not gay, but i'll learn Marcia It sounds like a teacher or something grading papers in the begining, and he gets distracted by this book timd thats what i said RobSherman yes i see now ben yes...i thik thats what it is too ship yes timd i win can i go now? justinsilberman i just think he gets sidetracked, but when he gets sidetracked he is thinking about something and the reading the book part is just covering up what he is thinking Marcia but what is the book? timd not in his field ship remember that this poem is a meditation ship he looks outside then inside then back outside justinsilberman there is no book adamwalck what i think happened was...he was reading papers of his students, and he is distraught, i think he feels that his students have a wake up call in the real world, but anyway, then he starts reading a book and sort of drifts off timd deep! timd thas what i sad timd said christieaurich yea, but what about the whole fog thang?? ship remember that with his wife...there was a sense of lack of communication timd thats the fog ship and when he reads his student papers he comments on their need to be more specific ship the book is specific Marcia maybe he get's distracted becuase he feels the students arent communicating through the papers or whatever timd he is searching for specificness ship so all together what do they mean adamwalck he doesnt like his life! NickWeaver maybe he thinks their papers suck and they are headed towards street life timd the fog is not specific ship he wants the channels of communication to be open between him and his wife timd and his students ship his wife believes something about him doesn't she justinsilberman maybe he has the communication problem ship maybe timd with his students Marcia and his wife justinsilberman he and his wife are the same as the papers he's grading justinsilberman yes ship or maybe the students just don't get it timd and his students ship it sometimes happens ship of course, not you guys timd who is that? Marcia I dont get the part where he says " Today no supervisions" timd oh dr myron Marcia what does that mean? christieaurich today he's not going to grade them.... or look them over timd yeah ship when young men and women go to college they are free adamwalck i think he gets depressed by reading his sutdents papers ship no supervisions RobSherman His book has taken him away from his problems timd hell ead instead timd read timd sorry ship they are free to raise hell as timd points out Marcia how old is this guy? ship to do and to be whomever they want ship older than me christieaurich old enough to be a professor adamwalck does gunn miss those days? ben he lives in san fran christieaurich he must ship it's not gunn ship do not equate the author with the speaker of the poem timd ah Marcia hmm christieaurich but he feels bad that things will only get more restrictive for his students Marcia was it one of his proffesors? timd or his father? adamwalck okay....does the speaker of the poem miss the days when he was free Marcia did he write this when he was a college student? ship I think that you should digest this information and respond to the last question on the bulletin board, so you can take off and be one without supervision Marcia I think he misses it ship bulletin board christieaurich i agree with ship Marcia i agree christieaurich let's all get going ............................ 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NickWeaver whats the question? ............................ ship left............. ............................ ship joined............. ............................ ship left............. adamwalck where do we find the question?>? ............................ timd left............. ............................ timd joined............. ............................ timd left............. ............................ timd joined............. ............................ mat left............. ............................ mat joined............. ............................ timd left............. ............................ timd joined............. ............................ timd left............. ............................ timd joined............. timd he successfully looked inside and outside for inspiration ............................ ben left............. timd like in a good meditation mat Although he is reading he is thinking about other things going on around him and this affect his thought timd good call timd i agree timd the lawn...outside mat He says he hears the chapel, and sees the snow timd the book...inside timd inside...outside timd meditation! mat slopes sorry timd i win timd can i go?
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